Old Yale Floor Safe - Have the combo, but not the sequence or the skill....

[ed]

My father died and left me with a mystery on my hands. He left me the
three numbers that supposedly unlock his old Yale Floor Safe. The
safe stands about 5 feet tall, has double doors and a wheel with marks
for 0-99.

My father left us only with the following information:

--The three numbers that open the safe are XX, XX, & XX then a return
to 0.


He did not specify the order. I have tried all 6 variations of the
combo but can't seem to get it open.

I have a few questions:

1) How do I properly "prepare" the wheel before trying a combination?
Do I just set it to zero?

2) Do I dial the first number in clockwise or counter-clockwise?

3) Do I stop on the first number after the 2cnd or 3rd pass? How
about the 2cnd and 3rd numbers and then 0?

4) I'm assuming that if there are 3 numbers in the combo that there
are only 6 possible combinations....am I missing something?

In essence, I was thinking it acted like a regular padlock where you
stop on the first number after the second pass, the second number
after the first, and the 3rd the first time you reach it.

Any help is much appreciated.

-ed

['Key]

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"Key"

Post by ed
My father died and left me with a mystery on my hands. He

left me the

Post by ed
three numbers that supposedly unlock his old Yale Floor

Safe. The

Post by ed
safe stands about 5 feet tall, has double doors and a

wheel with marks

Post by ed
for 0-99.

thats not a floor safe.
a floor safe is mounted in the floor.

Post by ed
--The three numbers that open the safe are XX, XX, & XX

then a return

Post by ed
to 0.

L4,R3,L2,R1
4+ times to the left (can be 100 times but at least 4)
and stop on the first number.
turn right and pass the second number twice and stop the
third time.
turn left and pass the third number and stop the second
time.
turn right and stop at "O".

[--Shiva--]

Post by 'Key
L4,R3,L2,R1
4+ times to the left (can be 100 times but at least 4)
and stop on the first number.
turn right and pass the second number twice and stop the
third time.
turn left and pass the third number and stop the second
time.
turn right and stop at "O".

SLIGHT disagree..

just because..

try turning the HANDLE.. does the DIAL get TIGHT? IE harder to
turn?

if SO..
then try the following.
4 left, to first number
R... 3rd time the second number comes up stop
LEFT, to the SECOND time the number comes up AND STOP..DO NOT
MOVE IT ANY MORE
see if it opens..

if NOT. REVERSE THE DIRECTIONS ABOVE..and try again..


and as a LAST thing (BYT, whats the PATENT date ON THE DIAL?)
1880's?

try 3 turns left
then right, 2nd time to second number
then back left to third number.. STOP

or go right first if that does not open..
.

--Shiva--

[Joe Kesselman]

Also, standard advice: If the right numbers don't work when dialed
correctly, try varying each up and down by a number -- ie, if the combo
you have is 20-30-40, try all the possible combinations of
19/20/21-29/30/31-39/40/41. (Some folks habitually dial a bit above or
below where they think they're dialing, so the combination they think
they're using may be slightly off from the one they're actually using --
but they're consistant enough that it works for them, though not for
anyone else.)

If that doesn't work, you could try +2/-2 as well, though that expands
the set of possiblites considerably and _probably_ won't help. (On the
other hand, sometimes it does work and it doesn't cost you anything but
time and patience.)

If _that_ doesn't work, start trying to guess how you might have
miscopied the combo (transposed two digits?), since unless you do guess
you're probably looking at hiring a pro to open it for you -- either
you've got the wrong combo or it's malfunctioning.

[Putyourspamhere]

Is it a Yale lock? If it is try RLR dialing with the same instructions others
have given.

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Post by Putyourspamhere
Is it a Yale lock? If it is try RLR dialing with the same instructions others
have given.

Thanks....I'll try both when I have a change again...perhaps later
this week I'll have time..thanks for the input..I'll post again after
I try.

[Barry Nicholls]

If is a MANIFOIL MK4

Try this

turn clockwise stopping when the first number comes to the mark the fifth
time.

turn anticlockwise stopping when the second number comes to the mark the
fourth time

turn clockwise stopping when the third number comes to the mark for the
third time

the next bit depends on the way the lock is fitted it couls be 0,25,50 or 70

turn anticlockwise stopping at 0 the second time it comes to the mark

then turn clockwise slowly until the lock operates and the dial refuses to
turn any further. then operate the handle and open the safe.

Good luck.

Post by ed
My father died and left me with a mystery on my hands. He left me the
three numbers that supposedly unlock his old Yale Floor Safe. The
safe stands about 5 feet tall, has double doors and a wheel with marks
for 0-99.
--The three numbers that open the safe are XX, XX, & XX then a return
to 0.
He did not specify the order. I have tried all 6 variations of the
combo but can't seem to get it open.
1) How do I properly "prepare" the wheel before trying a combination?
Do I just set it to zero?
2) Do I dial the first number in clockwise or counter-clockwise?
3) Do I stop on the first number after the 2cnd or 3rd pass? How
about the 2cnd and 3rd numbers and then 0?
4) I'm assuming that if there are 3 numbers in the combo that there
are only 6 possible combinations....am I missing something?
In essence, I was thinking it acted like a regular padlock where you
stop on the first number after the second pass, the second number
after the first, and the 3rd the first time you reach it.
Any help is much appreciated.
-ed